Overpass find relations without their members

Related to this topic. I have a list of way id’s that I can select with overpass turbo and then export to JOSM. If I do this I get all ways in JOSM but I am missing the relations. I can also get their relaties with this example but that also gives me all other ways in these relations. I just want the ways that were input together with their relations. Is there a way to achieve this?

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